How do we find the right kind of people with whom to form a band? The first question looming large in my mind is “who.” Who is it that I am searching for? Who is my true kin? I recently realized that I was suffering from believism: the viral meme that insists that beliefs and ideas are what really matters, and “by their beliefs ye shall know them.” When I reflected on where to turn to find my kind of people, I kept coming up with various worldview groups. The desire to be with others of like belief is a powerful thing. How often have we exclaimed in relief – finally I have found people who think like me! What joy. (Until we find they really don’t.)
After another such encounter – hoping to be altered by a face-to-face meeting with someone who was an excellent belief match, and did not pan out in real life – and after seeing how people of like beliefs end up fighting with one another over magnified molehills, I figured it was time to scrap this whole template of searching via beliefs and start over.
It seems to me that people flock together basically in the following ways:
- because they like the company (e.g. I always get along with cousin Emma, we have good chemistry between us)
- because they share passions, interests or projects (e.g. beekeepers)
- because they share beliefs, worldviews (e.g. Catholics)
- because they share a lifeway, a local culture (e.g. the Highland Scots)
- because they share value-laden preferences (e.g. participatory, peer-based communication)
- because they share an inspiring vision (e.g. peace)
Any and all of these reasons are compelling. They do work to bring about mutual enjoyment and a bond. They all provide motivation to spend time in the other person’s company, and explore further. What I am about to argue is that they are not enough. They are not enough to form long-term tight relationships, the kind of bonds that are needed to forge together a viable tribal group that has both cohesiveness and durability.
Any of them alone will likely lead to disappointment in the search for a good band-mate. What is missing? The missing part has to do with integrity. It has to do with the ability to work through conflict. It has to do with a whole slew of phenomena that perhaps can all be lumped into ‘trustworthiness.’ If another person knows how to navigate the perils of a heated discussion without getting nasty, I can trust them. If they know how to give me critical feedback without biting my head off when I screw up, I can trust them. If they are able to offer empathy in response to my grief or anger, I can trust them. If they do their damnedest to be honest and straightforward, I can trust them.
All too often, we offer solidarity on the basis of ideas, and forget to reserve our loyalty based on that other piece of the puzzle: character. On who this person really is in the world. What sort of story are they enacting among their own? How do they behave, how do they treat living beings? For example, if a person shares my beliefs to a tee, yet they are a habitual blamer, take their frustrations out on other people, and are driven by the need to be always right, all the good ideas, shared interests and other similarities are not going to prevent ongoing damage or save the relationship in the long run.
True community must be based on both trust and common outlook. If the trust isn’t there, no shared-belief magic will fill the hole. I am willing to extend this further and claim that when it comes to forging alliances with people, trustworthiness must take precedence over ideas. If the person or group is trustworthy and treats you right, even if some of their ideas are weird or unpalatable, it makes sense to favor them over people whose ideas are right on but who cannot be trusted. Ideally, we want both in a small band community; but when choosing wider allies, I say choose trust over like-mindedness.
Besides, think of a geek with poor social skills who does not know how to treat people well. What is easier for this person to change: behavior, or beliefs? Bingo. People readily learn to adapt their belief systems. But ego trippers or chronic quarrelers usually remain so across worldviews. As Diana Leafe Christian writes in Creating a Life Together, many an intentional community has come to grief over the ill-considered acceptance of the untrustworthy.
Trust is the unifying force we have been looking for. It goes past the games people play with ideas and language. Trust is the ageless glue that used to hold communities together in former days. Ideals and passions unite today and often fragment tomorrow. Shared trust unites us for the long, winding road ahead.
July 1, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Loved this post. Will have to spend some time digesting it. For now just a ‘recognition’ comment-
“after seeing how people of like beliefs end up fighting with one another over magnified molehills”
I think of this as “the narcissism of small-differences”. Rather than actually getting on with practical work (with the risks of failure, being exposed – to yourself and others- as not quite as smart/diligent as you want to believe yourself to be – we magnify the tiny doctrinal differences. People’s Front of Judea stuff, isn’t it?
And it’s true – once someone’s untrustworthy, it’s still possible to work with them, but not on “mission critical” elements of a project. And you always keep them at arms length, and it’s never quite the same. (I am speaking in a purely instrumentalist ‘is someone reliable’ sense. Your comments on seeing how people treat others/if they’re always blaming etc. are far more profound than that, I know, and deserve a better response)
July 1, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Hey, Dwight Towers… no, it’s never quite the same.
Are we in agreement that Life of Brian ought to be required viewing for any and all who would dabble in politics or social change? 😀
July 2, 2010 at 11:32 am
So, “People’s Front of Judea stuff” is to be found in “Life of Brian”? I did see said flick once, probably too young. But it taught me to always look on the bright side of life…
Yup, another thought-evoking post by the Leavergirl. First, about the factionalism which is alluded to and so many of us have experienced, my observation and cause for SOME hope in working with others or trying to is that only some personality types at certain stages of development, shall we say, have such a tendency toward terminal self-paralysis via infighting. Others of us, though we may at first naturally cling to our view on a matter having not yet been convinced of it being wrong, will pretty soon come around to a fair game if that’s allowed by the other players. What we need to most watch out for is those who seem unable to step back from the magnified molehills and get the perspective necessary to avert or heal such stupifying paralysis. It’s so sad how so many people are simply subconsciously set to sabotage positive change when it rears its beautiful head. Seems that such folks usually tend to stay among the untrustworthy on that “mission-critical” level and need to be sort of steered clear of…much easier said than done, so often, though.
More soon.
July 3, 2010 at 9:57 am
JayD, clearly, I was wrong. One viewing won’t do. Life of Brian must be seen afresh in every decade of one’s life… 🙂
Perhaps, removing ideology as the raison d’etre of groups coming together, and prioritizing trustworthiness, a whole other pattern will be free to emerge… ?
July 4, 2010 at 1:10 am
“Prioritizing trustworthiness”…will have to sit with that…reminds me of Bucky Fuller relatively late in life, on a campaign with a tag line like, “Only Integrity Is Going To Count”. Struck me as a bit strange at the time, as if too obvious and elementary for such a genius or something, but i was naive then and it’s stayed with me sort of hauntingly recurring…in a good way.
What this post left me thinking about is why it’s so hard to really connect “sustainably” with each other. I want to be in a tribe or band of the right sort, and feel pretty ready, but…where are we? I see how our fragmented earlier lives left some of us without the other big piece that makes band-bonding work, “tradition”. And i say “tradition” with the utmost hesitation in a way, being one of those who eschewed it. I am suspicious of tradition and custom, but it’s such powerful stuff, and for all its faults, it greatly helps with trust and stick-to-it-ive-ness. That’s one big thing that “they” the masses and elites, have more ‘on their side’, a way to relate to the world that tolerates disconnection, and a lot of common agreement, more bowing to tradition. Which unifies. And as we know, fully fosters said disconnection from the depths we’d need to “meet” more in.
Some believe we need to carefully preserve and observe old traditions, some say we need new ones to replace the old, some still seek to minimize tradition wherever found. Just thought i’d try to inject that into the equation, since we’re pretty hobbled without this “power” to tap into, yet we know it’s important to be freer of the past as well. Yes, life can sure be seriously challenging these days!
July 6, 2010 at 8:53 am
Amazing Bucky. 🙂
I think (hope) a lot of people are ready… Tradition? It makes it possible to flock together in churches and temples; a lot of that is not about religion but about social stuff, helping one another and the community. When I was so horribly ill years ago, I wished I had been part of such a place. But the deadly boredom of “services” would have finished me off way before my time, I think! 😉
Youz right though… tradition does bring people together, and will be part of our tribal future (after all, all the historical tribes have been steeped in tradition). Perhaps Dark Mountain is spot on, and we need to bring back to consciousness the old stories and ways going all the way back to before this civ…
July 13, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Let me throw in “commitment”. Ouch! Where have we heard that before? How easily do your would be “tribalists” pick up their marbles (or tents) and move on? Isn’t the can’t sit still gotta have it now my way or else I’m outta here complex a basic feature of our community challenged nonculture. The labile, reactive, unhealthly individualistic unable to work with others for any decent length of time product of these times. Meditation is a great cure for this sorry I gotta go syndrome. Group cohesiveness doesn’t grow in stop watch time intervals. Every group getting started needs at least two people who will be there come what may. OK maybe just one if you can stick it out. I have been that one. It eventually grew big time…
July 15, 2010 at 10:20 am
Well, actually tribals do walk away from conflict. That is part of their success. Maybe the trick is a right balance… you can walk away, but in the meantime, you figure out how not to so that you actually have a chance to build something up.
Able to work with others is key. Please do tell more about your experience…
Another thought is… tribals do walk away from immediate conflicts but they do not walk away from the tribe. Bands shift but the web of interrelationships that is the tribe stays put… with us, people up and leave into anonymity, and that’s that.
September 9, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Wandering around the site, I got back to this thread. Creating real community is a central problem facing us if we are to survive. Scott Peck’s book The Different Drum was one of the ingredients in our Spiritual Growth Network. How to create a group process that maximizes individual growth and group values at he same time.
One of Peck’s ideas was creating situations that brought forth deep emotional sharing among those seeking community. The marathon meetings of the sixties were a model for him. Although our Growth Group does three day rtreats four times a year, we did not use the marathon technique to open up to each other, but found other ways — perhaps more gradual and lasting ways to create the ties that bind in deeper friendship. Oh yes, we borrowed freely from the Quakers, also. And AA, and others…
Our regular weekly meetings have proved to be useful means to open up at greater depths to each other, and mutually catalyze each others spiritual growth. (As to the Spirit part, my understanding is that there is nothing other than Spirit.)
I have always been fascinated by our attempts to model Utopias in this troubled world, even if only on a small scale. Why else could we possibly be put here for?
September 9, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I used to really dislike Peck’s stuff. It’s too long ago to really know why. I heard that he tried forming a community and failed miserably, but wiki does not mention it.
I see him as too much of a theoretician, as well as a hypocrite unable to live what he preached. I would be curious to know which aspects of his communitarian musings you have found most helpful.
September 27, 2015 at 5:18 pm
Reblogged this on Consentient and commented:
I loved this, and wanted to add that, as I see it, integrity is a rejection of taking the easy way out, and a devotion to seeing things through.
September 27, 2015 at 9:37 pm
Welcome, consentient. Good points. As for criticizing other people’s beliefs, that’s a delicate one. It usually ends up demeaning the other… which shortchanges any further exploration. Not always though. If the person is skilled in sticking to the ideas (beliefs) and leaving the person out of it.
September 28, 2015 at 12:58 am
Well I guess I have no interest discussing ‘beliefs’ when they are of that kind that have no foundation – i.e. ‘faith-based’.
If someone tells me ‘I believe this just because’, there’s not really much I can say to that, really. That’s a conversation stopper if ever I heard one.
September 28, 2015 at 1:23 am
I recommend looking at Miller’s Law. (wiki has it)
September 28, 2015 at 4:38 am
How can I assume something is true if its meaningless? R.A.W. and Korzybski before him wrote a lot about the third category of ‘meaningless’ as distinct from either ‘true’ or ‘false.’
I have in my hands a square circle. First assume that’s true and then try to ask me something further.
September 28, 2015 at 6:59 am
Auld shit. Like “married bachelor” it’s a simple contradiction of terms. Give some credit to people for being more complex than that. Unless you are an utter cynic. Are you?
September 28, 2015 at 8:29 am
What is an utter cynic?